team lineup V Doggies

[Matimbo]

Now that Rhyce is over his injuries (hopefully), the only thing keeping him out of automatic selection in the seniors is his fitness base. One would think if they didn't intend to start him, he would have been better served playing a full or near full game in the ressies. For that reason I'd be pretty surprised if they make him the sub, it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

+1. Why go from 70% reserves game time to less than a qtr game time in seniors as a plan for getting him back to full match fitness?? Gotta start him and have a match-fit sub ready to takeover when he is spent.

[Triple B]

dnt matter who it as they have to earn their spot...swans doin well why change a winning line up???

I'm not arguing the pros and cons of his selection, but now that he is selected, I'm putting forward the case that he should not be the sub.

[wolftone57]

I'd love to see him out there too, but don't you reckon there must a slight doubt over his fitness, which is why he's named on the bench? Either that or he's going to wear the green vest.

The good thing is we are starting to bring back our missing players ahead of the finals.

i agree Rhyce played 80 minutes and came in blowing due to lack of match fitness. If he is played on the weekend then we are going back to the bad old days of playing players on reputation rather than fitness. We have plenty of depth we don't need to play Rhyce before he is match fit. If there is a doubt on Mal then bring young Biggs in as sub, he is a similar type to Mal but not as seasoned of course. We can cover Mal with the players we have in our back half already it just means more game time for Dane ad a sub of Biggs in the third to help alleviate the load. But it seems we are going to play Rhyce even if nt match fit, I don't agree with this.

[ShockOfHair]

Longmire also confirmed that Rhyce Shaw, who was named in the Swans? extended squad last night, would play this weekend should he get through Friday?s final training session.

?We?re hopeful that Rhyce Shaw is able to get through the training session and if he pulls up, we?ll name him in the team,? he said.

First possession critical against Dogs - SYDNEYSWANS.com.au

[wolftone57]

I know, I just meant if we could select anyone we wanted. I could't tell if you were joking or not re Shaw as a forward - but with McGlynn, Morton, Jetta and Rohan to eventually be part of the action, I can't see Shaw being an option.....and does one want to disturb the backline? I'd be very disappointed if McVeigh got moved from where he is. Seems to be a successful ploy ala Sam Mitchell, Jarrad McVeigh - put an elite midfielder on the half-back line.

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Have the Swans rotated backmen in the past? Or just mids and utilities?

Rampe/Everitt quite a few times this season and Mal, Macca Rampe, Everitt, seem to be rotating when there is need to rest a back player. Smooch doesn't get rested much I notice probably because his role is so specialised, minding the dangerous small forwards like Rioli.

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All the regular backs average over 90% TOG. Do we normally select 6 or 7 Backs ? This week we have 6 backs and Macca named on the wing and probably Shaw on the bench so probably 8 players who will spend at least some time down back. We'll have to have a close look this weekend.

Always 7 in the past so we could rotate off the bench and rest one back player at a time. For instance our line up:

B D.Rampe, H.Grundy, N.Smith
HB N.Malceski, T.Richards, A.Everitt
C C.Bird, R.O'Keefe, J.McVeigh
HF D.Hannebery, J.White, J.Bolton
F J.Lamb, K.Tippett, M.Pyke
Foll S.Mumford, J.Kennedy, K.Jack
I/C (from) S.Biggs, H.Cunningham, B.Jack, T.Mitchell, M.Morton, L.Parker, R.Shaw

?In: R.Shaw, M.Morton, S.Biggs

this line up has Macca on a wing but that never happens he always plays HB. Either Rampe, Mal, Macca or Dre start on the bench. More likely Dre or Dane. But all get good game time and all backs get to be rested at some stage.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Shaw and Biggs flying to Melbourne. Assume Shaw is playing and Biggs is the traveling emergency
Cunningham is out

Having Biggs travelling makes me wonder whether Horse is 100% confident that Mal and Shaw will come up. As to poor Harry, geez the green vest is a hard way to try to break into the firsts.
If the AFL do cap the interchanges, does that mean we can say goodbye to the vests?

[ScottH]

I know, I just meant if we could select anyone we wanted. I could't tell if you were joking or not re Shaw as a forward - but with McGlynn, Morton, Jetta and Rohan to eventually be part of the action, I can't see Shaw being an option.....and does one want to disturb the backline? I'd be very disappointed if McVeigh got moved from where he is. Seems to be a successful ploy ala Sam Mitchell, Jarrad McVeigh - put an elite midfielder on the half-back line.

No, I was dead serious.
Back in 2010 he played FF for a small portions of 2 games with great effect.
He's quick and elusive.

The back line is quite settled ATM, so no reason to upset that, so why not surprise the dogs with a quick small in the F50.

[Triple B]

No, I was dead serious.
Back in 2010 he played FF for a small portions of 2 games with great effect.
He's quick and elusive.

The back line is quite settled ATM, so no reason to upset that, so why not surprise the dogs with a quick small in the F50.

He's also had the odd game as a run with player over the years, although struggling with match fitness would see that as a tough ask at the minute. It could quite feasibly be an option going forward, particularly if the current Mal McVeigh show keeps rating thru the roof...

[ugg]

Having Biggs travelling makes me wonder whether Horse is 100% confident that Mal and Shaw will come up. As to poor Harry, geez the green vest is a hard way to try to break into the firsts.
If the AFL do cap the interchanges, does that mean we can say goodbye to the vests?

Probably just player management - Morton and Cunningham need more game time than Biggs at the moment.

[Bloodthirsty]

No, I was dead serious.
Back in 2010 he played FF for a small portions of 2 games with great effect.
He's quick and elusive.

The back line is quite settled ATM, so no reason to upset that, so why not surprise the dogs with a quick small in the F50.

I understand that for this game, which is little more than a practice match, but as part of a premiership-seeking outfit, where would you play Shaw if one of McGlynn, Morton, Rohan and Jetta came back as forwards?

[swantastic]

I'm not arguing the pros and cons of his selection, but now that he is selected, I'm putting forward the case that he should not be the sub.

imo he should be the sub hes been out for ages,maybe give him halfa game

[Ludwig]

I think Shaw and Smith may split the defensive work on the quick small forwards Gianseracusa and Dahlhaus. Both are pretty dangerous and can hit the scoreboard often. We need to give Shaw some game time if he's to feature in the finals. This is the game to do it as next week vs. Collingwood will be one where we'd want to have the backline issues worked out beforehand.