Late start to this weeks general footy chat thread but anyway, I see the Suns are getting flogged by Carlton at home at the moment......how bad were we last week?!

Dees doing well against Crows too. Would be a good win for them in hostile territory.

On the live ladder, we are down to eighth now. If Hawthorn win tomorrow, we will be ninth and the way we are traveling currently, that would be about right. We've never really hit our straps any time this season and with a growing injury list, it's fading away.....