Alleged incident at hotel on Sunday night

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  • UUaswan
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2024
    • 1282

    #256
    Also im no criminal investigator but im sure you would interview someone within a week of an alleged incident.

    Conduct so terrible that multiple clubs have contacted player managers for player availability....

    Another wild assumption is the managers would know full version of events and more than happy to talk about player availability after dramatic overreaction towards their clients

    Only ones who should be sacked are the hierarchy

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    • Roadrunner
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2018
      • 1566

      #257
      Originally posted by UUaswan

      Agree

      Such terrible actions every other club is after the players for half price.

      Sydney so stupid will probably move them on for culture and set the club back years
      Why are you so negative UUaswan? We need to wait until the police report is in- let’s not berate the club as they had no choice so please don’t knock the club just yet!

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      • UUaswan
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2024
        • 1282

        #258
        Originally posted by Roadrunner

        Why are you so negative UUaswan? We need to wait until the police report is in- let’s not berate the club as they had no choice so please don’t knock the club just yet!
        They destroyed our season because they didnt wait for the police report

        Wait til trade week, this will be so f8cked

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        • Blue Sun
          Senior Player
          • May 2010
          • 1455

          #259
          Originally posted by UUaswan

          They destroyed our season because they didnt wait for the police report

          Wait til trade week, this will be so f8cked
          They were suspended because they were partying all night on coke with strippers 2 weeks out from finals. Their suspension is independent from the police investigation and alleged SA.

          Get your facts straight. Pridham said exactly this when the suspensions were handed out.

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          • Roadrunner
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2018
            • 1566

            #260
            Originally posted by UUaswan

            They destroyed our season because they didnt wait for the police report

            Wait til trade week, this will be so f8cked
            No, my friend. The players brought this on themselves by their silly and selfish behavior just 2 weeks out from the finals. Broke club rules by being up until all hours and engaging in questionable behaviour- this is clear and irrelevant of the police report, which will deal with the alleged SA and has little to do with the club’s rules.

            The players can show real character by genuine remorse and thus re-establishing trust with their teammates, our club and us. I’m confident they will do this and we will do our best to reintegrate them to our club for their benefit and ours.

            However, this will change if charges are laid- so let’s hope this will not be the case!

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            • UUaswan
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2024
              • 1282

              #261
              Originally posted by Blue Sun

              They were suspended because they were partying all night on coke with strippers 2 weeks out from finals. Their suspension is independent from the police investigation and alleged SA.

              Get your facts straight. Pridham said exactly this when the suspensions were handed out.
              Read my 60 posts, im saying it was over the top. I know he said it was independent of the alleged charges, he had to, as a week later there are still no charges laid.

              "we are all united on the suspension the board handed down" you honestly expect a player or coach to say otherwise ?

              Womens players convicted in Court on drug charges (imagine being allowed that right), 2 week suspension

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              • neilfws
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2009
                • 1872

                #262
                I have little to add on this whole sorry business, except (1) I am so very disappointed, (2) I hope that the club does everything in its power to rebuild my trust and (3) once again, Jonathan Horn has written a belter of an article.

                The Swans beat North Melbourne at the SCG, but the result mattered little at the end of a a week that has been a wake-up call for all connected to club

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8387

                  #263
                  Its an okay article, not sure I'd call it a belter. He picks up some of the story well (i.e. reflects very well on the hero worship culture of modern sport and the broader emotions), but then over-fixates on other elements too much (Such as the walkout and lower crowd), and then makes sweeping generalisations that simply aren't true (yes what happens on the field is not of the importance it may have been, but it does still matter to many).

                  That is his writing too a tee normally though - some great salient points mixed in with a few shots that go out on the full.

                  I've been disappointed a bit by the Guardian's coverage more broadly - usually they are reasonably circumspect with balancing the need to report breaking headlines, with sticking to the facts and important parts of a story. They've been at the forefront of some quite misleading reporting across the last week, amplifying parts that tell us nothing more/not add to the known facts, in an apparent desperation to paint up just how bad it all is. It is below their usual standards imho - they aren't alone in that regard of course. They've had some good articles and some shockers over the past week.
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16853

                    #264
                    Originally posted by mcs
                    Its an okay article, not sure I'd call it a belter. He picks up some of the story well (i.e. reflects very well on the hero worship culture of modern sport and the broader emotions), but then over-fixates on other elements too much (Such as the walkout and lower crowd), and then makes sweeping generalisations that simply aren't true (yes what happens on the field is not of the importance it may have been, but it does still matter to many).

                    That is his writing too a tee normally though - some great salient points mixed in with a few shots that go out on the full.

                    I've been disappointed a bit by the Guardian's coverage more broadly - usually they are reasonably circumspect with balancing the need to report breaking headlines, with sticking to the facts and important parts of a story. They've been at the forefront of some quite misleading reporting across the last week, amplifying parts that tell us nothing more/not add to the known facts, in an apparent desperation to paint up just how bad it all is. It is below their usual standards imho - they aren't alone in that regard of course. They've had some good articles and some shockers over the past week.
                    I've avoided all the published media about this story over the past week and haven't even been visiting my regular pages - of which the Guardian is the mainstay - for other current affairs and news. So I've not read anything they've written about this until that piece.

                    I agree there were some decent points made, but it felt a bit syrupy, dripping with overt pathos. And I don't identity with most of the emotions attributed to fans in that article - especially the idea that we've been made to feel like fools. I don't feel devasted or betrayed. Disappointed yes, that some talented footballers whose footy ability I admire and very much enjoy watching (and still hope I might get to watch again one day) behaved poorly and let down their club and team mates. How poorly they behaved is yet to be established. And as someone who fits into the two demographic groups Horn identifies - a woman and an older person - I feel even less affiliation with what he wrote. As most of us probably did yesterday, I talked with the people who sit around me at the ground and have done for years. Some were male; some female. Most would be classified as "older". And yet I found none who I think would feel affiliated with what Horn has written.

                    I see the lead article on the Guardian website is currently about Dillon's statement that none of the players involved will be invited to the Brownlow. Come on Guardian. Do you really think that's the most important news of the day?

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8387

                      #265
                      Originally posted by liz

                      I've avoided all the published media about this story over the past week and haven't even been visiting my regular pages - of which the Guardian is the mainstay - for other current affairs and news. So I've not read anything they've written about this until that piece.

                      I agree there were some decent points made, but it felt a bit syrupy, dripping with overt pathos. And I don't identity with most of the emotions attributed to fans in that article - especially the idea that we've been made to feel like fools. I don't feel devasted or betrayed. Disappointed yes, that some talented footballers whose footy ability I admire and very much enjoy watching (and still hope I might get to watch again one day) behaved poorly and let down their club and team mates. How poorly they behaved is yet to be established. And as someone who fits into the two demographic groups Horn identifies - a woman and an older person - I feel even less affiliation with what he wrote. As most of us probably did yesterday, I talked with the people who sit around me at the ground and have done for years. Some were male; some female. Most would be classified as "older". And yet I found none who I think would feel affiliated with what Horn has written.

                      I see the lead article on the Guardian website is currently about Dillon's statement that none of the players involved will be invited to the Brownlow. Come on Guardian. Do you really think that's the most important news of the day?
                      I also am a regular reader of the Guardian. But I've been disappointed in recent months their seeming fall towards mirroring other 'populist' papers that want to put as key headlines things that don't really matter and aren't that important.

                      Yes what Dillon said is important, but its not a critical news article. Neither was the other day when the lawyer for one of the alleged victims starting sprouting everything and anything - not because he didn't have a right to do that, but because it was adding absolutely nothing to the discourse but some mud slinging for the sake of it.

                      Horn does better than most mainsteam footy writers at achieving a reasonable balance in most of his articles. But completely agree about the overt pathos in this article!
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • imuninformedtwo
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2024
                        • 1053

                        #266
                        So, I have a client at the moment that is flying me to Melb for two days tomorrow. I left them to manage flights and accom. They booked me into the Pullman.

                        I mean, seriously, too soon guys. What are the odds.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8387

                          #267
                          You can only laugh uninformed or you'll cry! But definitely too soon - although in normal times it is a very pleasant hotel to stay at (and no I was not one of the other mystery 4 in the room that night )
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • UUaswan
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2024
                            • 1282

                            #268
                            Day 8 Update

                            No charges laid
                            Culture so terrible the assistant coach is appointed elsewhere
                            Mills cheered on for Sunday's effot (rightfully so) whilst being Captain of club/culture in question

                            Blakey has gone from knocking out a women's teeth with a sex object to being upset for even being included in the sanction....Should bode well for the trade period

                            All the media attention has died down as we have appeased the masses, oh wait

                            Richmond making fun of the allegations, we have really made a laughing stock of ourselves

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                            • mcs
                              Travelling Swannie!!
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8387

                              #269
                              The media attention has only died down (noting there were several articles today still on various crap) because there is precious little new information to report. It will only last until new information arises - you are sadly mistaken UU if you think the media attention is gone.
                              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                              • UUaswan
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2024
                                • 1282

                                #270
                                Originally posted by mcs
                                The media attention has only died down (noting there were several articles today still on various crap) because there is precious little new information to report. It will only last until new information arises - you are sadly mistaken UU if you think the media attention is gone.
                                That was the joke mate

                                Sydney went early and hard to deal with the fallout and the media still want blood..... Nothing is never enough when you try appease the masses in the court if public opinion

                                Total overreaction
                                Last edited by UUaswan; Today, 12:12 AM.

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