Folou better kick than Shaw

[dimelb]

I don't know Folou (French actor?) but Shaw has been much more plus than minus. Pity he missed that kick, but plenty of people who are noted kicks did as much, or worse.

[BSA5]

I'm not sure if bias is the best word...from my point of view it is the fact that he makes clangers AFTER making a stupid decision...that's what kills me. As someone said it's the times he does dumb short cute kicks that miss that make me wish he had been retired after his last Collingwood game...I remember watching that and the 3 or 4 absolutely appalling errors that cost goals and lost Collingwood a fina agaisnt Adelaidel...."I reckon that bloke will never, ever play for Collingwood again" Was extremely surprised that we picked him up. I never realised he had so much upside....trouble is he just can't stop doing the shocking turnovers and mouthing off when things don't go his way. Sheesh, I dunno what we should do.

Wish I could wave a magic wand and have every Sydney player only play his up side.

You have to take the good with the bad though. Shaw provides MUCH more good than bad, and his bad isn't even that obvious. It's more like people expect him to screw up, and so when he does, everybody says "Haha, told you so!", when he actually does it relatively rarely for somebody who gets his amount of possession. LRT used to suffer the same fate (and still does with some people).

[sharp9]

I'm not sure if bias is the best word...from my point of view it is the fact that he makes clangers AFTER making a stupid decision...that's what kills me. As someone said it's the times he does dumb short cute kicks that miss that make me wish he had been retired after his last Collingwood game...I remember watching that and the 3 or 4 absolutely appalling errors that cost goals and lost Collingwood a fina agaisnt Adelaidel...."I reckon that bloke will never, ever play for Collingwood again" Was extremely surprised that we picked him up. I never realised he had so much upside....trouble is he just can't stop doing the shocking turnovers and mouthing off when things don't go his way. Sheesh, I dunno what we should do.

Wish I could wave a magic wand and have every Sydney player only play his up side.

[BSA5]

If you're going to bag Shaw, at least get it right. It isn't his long kicks that are bad, they are usually well weighted, well directed and clever. It's his short kicks that tend to miss the target. He also doesn't turn it over nearly as often as people think. A kicking efficiency of 78% (not that that is the be-all and end-all) and a non-free-kick clanger (NFKC) count of 14 (when talking about kicking skills, you have to take out clangers counted as free kicks such as in the back, etc), despite leading the club for kicks with 145, is quite impressive. That's one every 10.35 kicks. Compare that to:

Goodes - 23 NFKCs, 126 kicks, 1 clanger every 5.5 kicks.
Jack - 16 NFKCs, 123 kicks, 1 clanger every 7.7 kicks.
McVeigh - 15 NFKCs, 122 kicks, 1 clanger every 8.1 kicks.
Hannebery - 9 NFKCs, 82 kicks, 1 clanger every 9.1 kicks.
Malceski - 15 NFKCs, 144 kicks, 1 clanger every 9.6 kicks.

I'm sure I could go on. There is a bias against Shaw, probably carried over from his time at Collingwood. He did make a couple of bad blues on the weekend kicking out, but it was nothing to do with kicking ability. He was trying to create run, bit off more than he could chew, and put pressure on himself. Occasionally he does that. He's forgiven, though, because he gives us so much the rest of the time.

[Lucky Knickers]

Can we lock it down and put it in the time capsule?