Big Whitey

[boroboy]

Jesse's calm demeanor would be admired if he were a star player. Some just interpret his pleasant personality as not having enough ticker. I think he should be judged on his performance, not appearances. Many of his performances are not that great, but he shouldn't be judged too harshly on this game in wet conditions. We know he can get a little lost out there when things are moving too fast around him. Let's see how he goes the next time round.

But he's clearly not a star player-he's not even a consistently reliable player.

And I do judge him on his performances-the vast majority of which are dreadful.

He can 'get a little lost out there'? Seriously-didn't realize we were pampering to a child.

And 'let's see how he goes next time around'? It's like listening to a stuck record with the Jesse fan club-how many chances does he deserve exactly?

No offence intended to your defence of him-I just find it baffling how anyone can continue to defend this guy.

[ernie koala]

Well said. Anyone can type from anonymity ... I hope that when anyone offers criticism, before they press the submit button, they stop for a second and think (honestly think) would I say this directly to they player's face.
Most of these guys are drafted with a chance to live their dream ... only it's just the beginning ... with no certainty of success. Many careers are short, even when the players are giving 100%.

Your riding a bit high in the saddle there 0918....I won't go too far into the old chestnut debate, (which has been aired many times over on here)...but...

Even though I don't agree with Boroboys view of Jesse, I'm happy for him to post it. ( No one with the heart of a pea steps out on an AFL field)

These boards are about opinions, any opinion, without them this would be a dull lifeless place.

[aardvark]

Let's see how he goes the next time round.

yep like we've been doing for the last 8 years......

[Ludwig]

Jesse's calm demeanor would be admired if he were a star player. Some just interpret his pleasant personality as not having enough ticker. I think he should be judged on his performance, not appearances. Many of his performances are not that great, but he shouldn't be judged too harshly on this game in wet conditions. We know he can get a little lost out there when things are moving too fast around him. Let's see how he goes the next time round.

[Doctor]

You can't judge the performance of a tall on a surface like they played on yesterday. That was appalling.

[Bloodthirsty]

All I have to say is: Get used to him. If Mumford walks, White will become an important part of our team. We know he can play, he just needs to finally prove it and consecutive games are the only way to make that happen.

[0918330512]

At some point I think as footy fans we need to sit back and think about just how nasty our casually thrown comments are when discussing young men who probably are doing all they can to succeed.

Well said. Anyone can type from anonymity ... I hope that when anyone offers criticism, before they press the submit button, they stop for a second and think (honestly think) would I say this directly to they player's face.
Most of these guys are drafted with a chance to live their dream ... only it's just the beginning ... with no certainty of success. Many careers are short, even when the players are giving 100%.

[stellation]

Because he doesn't tackle. Won't chase. Stands on the periphery of every contest and never puts his body on the line. Has the turning circle of a combine harvester. Doesn't kick goals. Gives away countless free kicks. Has the heart of a pea.

Did I miss anything?

I question your "heat of a pea" statement. I've said it on here before, but I think it shows a lot of heart to slog it out in the magoos knowing you're a fair way down the pecking order and be ready to play when your team needs you. It shows a lot of heart to ruck out whole games in the magoos as an undersized ruckman because the club hasn't got anyone else who can give you a rest. It shows a lot of heart to show more joy in the success of your teammates than in your own success, especially when you're a fringe player.

At some point I think as footy fans we need to sit back and think about just how nasty our casually thrown comments are when discussing young men who probably are doing all they can to succeed.

[boroboy]

He's fast, he's big, can take a mark, and is that rare and valued commodity of forward/second ruck.
Plus he's playing in a club which manages to eek out every possible bit of a players ability onto the field.

So why isnt he a superstar ?
It doesnt make sense.

Because he doesn't tackle. Won't chase. Stands on the periphery of every contest and never puts his body on the line. Has the turning circle of a combine harvester. Doesn't kick goals. Gives away countless free kicks. Has the heart of a pea.

Did I miss anything?

[ernie koala]

5 kicks and 7 hitouts. That's more like the Jesse we know and love!

Maybe his inconsistency will run to Friday night, and we'll see another Stella(not you Stella) performance from Jesse.

[aardvark]

5 kicks and 7 hitouts. That's more like the Jesse we know and love!

[dimelb]

His shepherd and his own quad call goal: "just playing his role" in both instances. Good luck to him.

[Primmy]

Sheesh its a moment of glory which he isn't normally showered with! He's entitled to it, and to popular acclaim for Pete's sake. Nit picking at its finest.

[ernie koala]

That Jesse feels this was a better moment than the tackle and shepherd he applied to allow everitt's goal disappoints me but affirms my belief that he is still missing the point of how the swans play and think.

I'm sure, during video dissection of the game, he would of been told ,very clearly, which act most pleased his teammates and coaches...

I dare say the shepherd and tackle would of been numero uno...followed by other pressure acts he made.

[RogueSwan]

FRom the MMM commentary, he can now be called Jesse Wow! (about 36s in)