Big Whitey

[Bloodthirsty]

1. Reid if he's fit
2. Tippett.

and I reckon the chance of Mummy going is very unlikely.

Reid may not be fit and IMO it is a waste of a class (and expensive) power-forward to use Tippett in the ruck.

White will be around for a while. Let's just see if he can string some solid games together.

[Jewels]

He's had a reasonable game when we were crushed by Hawthorn. He played very well against Adelaide followed by a quiet game in conditions that didn't suit tall forwards. I don't think that justifies a crucification. I think it's quite reasonable to give him another go, especially considering that Mummy is out with injury and out of contract this year.

I called him a downhill skier last week and copped some criticism for it but I think your post points out exactly where I'm coming from, except we view his game against Hawthorn a tad differently.
Yes, he was not the reason we lost on Saturday and no I don't believe the result would have been any different if he had not been in the team, but using the wet ground is no good for big fellas defense is crap, he was beaten in nearly every category by Tippett.

[Plugger46]

I reckon Armstrong played very well against Essendon and Geelong last year. He was pretty solid in NZ against St.Kilda this year too. Unfortunately he hasn't been consistent. It's worth considering that his first game for a while coincided with the first time our midfield has been beaten for a month or more.

[barry]

I can never understand why Armstrong is not considered as a half forward flanker, rather than a defender.

[ernie koala]

Up until recently, I've held up hope for both White and Armstrong. But unfortunately, neither show anything when the heat is on.

I would contend, from what I've seen of them both....Neither is likely to give a yelp in a hotly contested final.

I'm not basing this on last weekends game, but rather all their 1st grade AFL games as Swans.

Both have had good patches, but it's never when the heat is on.

Armstrong has excellent disposal skills, but when under pressure he wilts.

Jesse has all the tools, but only uses them occasionally....

Here's hoping he has an 'on game' this Friday....And there in lies the problem.

[Plugger46]

He had plenty of mates. Jesse White was not the reason we lost the game.

Turning up with the wrong mindset and just expecting to do the business is the reason we lost.

Bit of publicity reading over the break I suspect.

[bodgie]

White worked hard, competed as well as any of the other tall blokes at contests on a water saturated ground. Many others out there deserve more bitching for that days effort.

[satchmopugdog]

Hooray....the new Paul Bevan....this divisiveness has been missing for a while

[aardvark]

Boroboy -

1. Who should replace White on Friday against Carlton? and
2. Who should play his role permanently if Mummy walks?

1. Reid if he's fit
2. Tippett.

and I reckon the chance of Mummy going is very unlikely.

[Bloodthirsty]

But he's clearly not a star player-he's not even a consistently reliable player.

And I do judge him on his performances-the vast majority of which are dreadful.

He can 'get a little lost out there'? Seriously-didn't realize we were pampering to a child.

And 'let's see how he goes next time around'? It's like listening to a stuck record with the Jesse fan club-how many chances does he deserve exactly?

No offence intended to your defence of him-I just find it baffling how anyone can continue to defend this guy.

Boroboy -

1. Who should replace White on Friday against Carlton? and
2. Who should play his role permanently if Mummy walks?

[Melbournehammer]

The reality is whether he was in or out on the weekend , it wouldnt have changed the result. Terrible conditions to judge the game of a big man like White.

There are a few others that conditions shouldnt have affected as much that should be hanging there heads before him.

+1
starting with the entire midfield and defence.

bar keiran.

[Mr Magoo]

The guys a professional footballer who's been at our club for a bloody long time. He earns 300k a year doing what he does. Do you think we get value for money? I hope he reads all the crap written about him and i hope it hurts enough to make him improve because in my opinion he's ripping us off. Just my 300k worth.

The reality is whether he was in or out on the weekend , it wouldnt have changed the result. Terrible conditions to judge the game of a big man like White.

There are a few others that conditions shouldnt have affected as much that should be hanging there heads before him.

[aardvark]

Not saying people shouldn't post opinions ... just saying that before going to town on someone, consider it might be hurtful to them of their friends or family. Some stuff can be really harsh immediately after the heat of a battle lost. My 2c worth

The guys a professional footballer who's been at our club for a bloody long time. He earns 300k a year doing what he does. Do you think we get value for money? I hope he reads all the crap written about him and i hope it hurts enough to make him improve because in my opinion he's ripping us off. Just my 300k worth.

[0918330512]

Your riding a bit high in the saddle there 0918....I won't go too far into the old chestnut debate, (which has been aired many times over on here)...but...

Even though I don't agree with Boroboys view of Jesse, I'm happy for him to post it. ( No one with the heart of a pea steps out on an AFL field)

These boards are about opinions, any opinion, without them this would be a dull lifeless place.

Not saying people shouldn't post opinions ... just saying that before going to town on someone, consider it might be hurtful to them of their friends or family. Some stuff can be really harsh immediately after the heat of a battle lost. My 2c worth

[Ludwig]

But he's clearly not a star player-he's not even a consistently reliable player.

And I do judge him on his performances-the vast majority of which are dreadful.

He can 'get a little lost out there'? Seriously-didn't realize we were pampering to a child.

And 'let's see how he goes next time around'? It's like listening to a stuck record with the Jesse fan club-how many chances does he deserve exactly?

No offence intended to your defence of him-I just find it baffling how anyone can continue to defend this guy.

He's had a reasonable game when we were crushed by Hawthorn. He played very well against Adelaide followed by a quiet game in conditions that didn't suit tall forwards. I don't think that justifies a crucification. I think it's quite reasonable to give him another go, especially considering that Mummy is out with injury and out of contract this year.