The Real Cost of Buddy?

[Matt80]

I was not having a go at our recruiters. I think Jesse would have got to Collingwood regardless of the recruitment of Franklin.

I just feel that the coaching staff always favoured Sam Reid, when Jesse had more God given talent. His talent just required patience, time, and a coach who believed in him. I don't think Longmire believed in him and it was a selection disgrace that Tommy Walsh was favoured to big Jesse. Now Jesse has Buckley and a Collingwood team who appreciate him.

[goswannies]

Out of the players we lost at the end of 2013, he is by far the biggest loss for the Swans!

The Swans have recruited a number of players who we already stars in their own right before they came to us (Buddy, Plugger, Roosey, Willow, Davis, Ball)

We have lost some bonafide stars, players who we knew were talented or players who would almost certainly be stars (Grant, Rocca, Jolly, Mummy, Dempster, Schneider) ... guys we didn't really want to lose.

We let a few guys go who we suspected wouldn't make it or were past it (and were proven correct - Vespa, Monty, Powell)

We have benefitted from MANY more players requiring a change of scenery to improve and to get the best out of themselves, players who looked like they might not make it at their previous clubs, but turned their careers around BIG TIME (Teddy, Joey, Gopher, Craig Bolton, Jolly, Mummy?)

Not too often have we let a player go who we underrated. Might've been the case with Jesse, but on the whole, I think our recruiters are in the black with their trades & recruiting.

[ScottH]

Jesse White has just shown great agility and pace to score his second. Dunstall commented on his exceptional pace from a standing start.

Many of us never doubted his talent. Just his ability to show that talent consistently.
Maybe he is getting better service from the mids at the pies than our rabble.

[Matt80]

Mmm I like White but gimme Buddy anyday

Jesse White has just shown great agility and pace to score his second. Dunstall commented on his exceptional pace from a standing start.

[DamY]

Mmm I like White but gimme Buddy anyday

[Matt80]

Did anyone just see Jesse White's towering goal square mark against North Melbourne? Outstanding!

Out of the players we lost at the end of 2013, he is by far the biggest loss for the Swans!

[bloodsbigot]

Yep, for every good thing Mummy did and as much as I loved him, he still faded waaaaay too much during the season and missed too many games.

The player I'm most upset about losing is Lamb and he hasn't even started that many games yet.

Not particularly interested in Everitt or White.

[aguy]

This thread is becoming the Swans expat thread.

Mumford has gone down with a minor knee and will miss two weeks.

Everette and Jed Lamb got plenty of game time for their new clubs in losing efforts.

Jesse White was highly impressive for Collingwood on Friday night. On a slippery night he contributed 3 goals, 4 tackles and 7 marks. He was the best key forward on the ground. The Magpies are very impressed with his work rate and athleticism. Good to see him doing well.

Actually mummy had a knee operation yesterday during the game. Sounds like he's still struggling with injury. It's probably because he's so hustling and bustling.

Hopefully Tippett and Reid get over their proneness to injury.

[Matt80]

This thread is becoming the Swans expat thread.

Mumford has gone down with a minor knee and will miss two weeks.

Everette and Jed Lamb got plenty of game time for their new clubs in losing efforts.

Jesse White was highly impressive for Collingwood on Friday night. On a slippery night he contributed 3 goals, 4 tackles and 7 marks. He was the best key forward on the ground. The Magpies are very impressed with his work rate and athleticism. Good to see him doing well.

[MightyBloods]

Word is that Frawley has already been offered 800 k to change clubs, so that's the new base.

Adelaide

[ScottH]

Franklin creates havoc.

[Mr Magoo]

Theoretically if the salary cape doubles within five years or even increases by 50% and you said that player salaries would all correspondingly do the same, then most of the swans top half dozen players will probably be on similar money at that time.

[Doctor]

As I have said all along, Franklin-type contracts will become the norm now that free agency is in. In time, the Swans will be seen to have copped it for being first to recognise it rather than the size of the deal.

[ScottH]

Consistent with what I wrote, the Swans are typically slow starters. I wouldn't however say they always perform badly in April:

They were undefeated and four from four in April 1998 and April 2012. They also only lost one game out of four in April in 1996, 2004, 2007, 2008 (with a draw), 2010, and 2013.

3 wins from 10 games in April 2005 and 2006.

[chalbilto]

So if you were a recruiter who would you rather have Frawley at $800K or Buddy at $1Million? Buddy deal is looking o.k. even allowing for 10 years.