Changes for Rnd 2 V Port.

[ugg]

Good news with Lobbe unavailable for them.

FB: Jack Hombsch, Alipate Carlile, Jackson Trengove
HB: Jasper Pittard, Tom Jonas, Matthew Broadbent
C: Jared Polec, Brad Ebert, Matt White
HF: Robbie Gray, Justin Westhoff, Chad Wingard
FF: Hamish Hartlett, Jay Schulz, Jake Neade
R: Patrick Ryder, Travis Boak, Ollie Wines
Interchange: Kane Cornes, Angus Monfries, Jarrad Redden, Jarman Impey
Emergencies: Kane Mitchell, Paul Stewart, Aaron Young

In: Redden
Out: Butcher (omitted)

[mcs]

Just because he was good on this particular ground twelve months ago against an inferior opponent, doesn't mean he deserves to hold his spot this week.
I'm a Harry fan but he was very poor against Essendon and the team can't afford any passengers against Port, it's enough to be carrying Goodes but at least he still has a few tricks up his sleeve. I agree with Rogue, Harry needs to go back to the twos and get his hunger back.

I would have no qualms if they drop him - but if it was me in the position make a decision, i would probably be willing to give him another go but make it very clear he is on notice. I guess what i as trying to say is the adelaide oval as a ground should suit a player like Cunningham more than anz did last week.

[chalbilto]

I really hope you're right Annie.

+1

[Jewels]

What do you mean carrying Goodesy?
He's going to surprise you all. He's just a slow starter!!
I'll be serving up fries to eat with your words.

I really hope you're right Annie.

[AnnieH]

What do you mean carrying Goodesy?
He's going to surprise you all. He's just a slow starter!!
I'll be serving up fries to eat with your words.

[Jewels]

I know Cunningham is down in form at the moment, but I wouldn't drop him for this weekend. He was excellent early last season against the Crows at the Adelaide oval - seemed to use his pace well on the longer ground. But I do agree that he needs to work much harder and play a greater role to keep his spot in the team.

Just because he was good on this particular ground twelve months ago against an inferior opponent, doesn't mean he deserves to hold his spot this week.
I'm a Harry fan but he was very poor against Essendon and the team can't afford any passengers against Port, it's enough to be carrying Goodes but at least he still has a few tricks up his sleeve. I agree with Rogue, Harry needs to go back to the twos and get his hunger back.

[PerthSwannie]

Unfortunately Goodes is now a cameo guy at best. He gets the run around by average opponents.
As a fan who's enjoyed and marvelled at his entire AFL career, it's torturous to watch.

I was saying to my mates last year during the GF, if we win Goodes will retire, if we lose he will play on. When he decided to play I thought Oh no.. His best days are long gone.Pity.

[Conor_Dillon]

It will be frustrating if Mitchell isn't picked this week (which I'm sure he won't be) but then is named as emergency and travels with the team...leaving him unable to play in the reserves.

[AnnieH]

So, do you think the swans will turn up this week?

[mcs]

For mine:
OUT : Goodes, Cunningham, Towers
IN : McVeigh, McGlynn, Mitchell

Unfortunately Goodes is now a cameo guy at best. He gets the run around by average opponents.
As a fan who's enjoyed and marvelled at his entire AFL career, it's torturous to watch.

Give me McGlynns hardness and pure desire... And Mitchell's footy smarts and ball winning/distributing, over Towers and Cunningham's pace any day.

It's not enough getting to and from contests quickly, if you don't impact them.

And I certainly wouldn't be dropping Laidler. His intent and attack on the ball was second to none during last weeks come back.

I know Cunningham is down in form at the moment, but I wouldn't drop him for this weekend. He was excellent early last season against the Crows at the Adelaide oval - seemed to use his pace well on the longer ground. But I do agree that he needs to work much harder and play a greater role to keep his spot in the team.

[RogueSwan]

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And I certainly wouldn't be dropping Laidler. His intent and attack on the ball was second to none during last weeks come back.

Playing like someone who wants to keep his spot. Maybe Harry does need to go back to the seconds to realise he has to work for his spot in the 22.

[ernie koala]

For mine:
OUT : Goodes, Cunningham, Towers
IN : McVeigh, McGlynn, Mitchell

Unfortunately Goodes is now a cameo guy at best. He gets the run around by average opponents.
As a fan who's enjoyed and marvelled at his entire AFL career, it's torturous to watch.

Give me McGlynns hardness and pure desire... And Mitchell's footy smarts and ball winning/distributing, over Towers and Cunningham's pace any day.

It's not enough getting to and from contests quickly, if you don't impact them.

And I certainly wouldn't be dropping Laidler. His intent and attack on the ball was second to none during last weeks come back.

[S.S. Bleeder]

I certainly see far more in Rohan as a forward than as a defender, and I now see Reid as far more effective as a defender. Part of our problem is the trade ban, and that we missed out on Joel Patful. Anyone who watched the St Kilda v GWS game would have seen exactly what we missed and how we would have used him. If you weren't angry about it before, you would have been after watching that game.

???? great points. Especially re Patful. I'm very confident that he was the real reason behind our trade ban. the VFL is doing everything possible to ensure that GWS is a success. Unfortunately for us, we are competing for the same market which means that the VFL wants us to be less successful.

[MattW]

Fantastic post from Flying South. I've just read through the last 3-4 pages and, while I don't agree with everything, there has been good analysis and opinion from everyone. We don't all have to agree, it is an opinion based forum after all, but I love the thought and passion for the Swans that has gone into so many of the posts.

I'm an irregular poster but I have been banging on about structure and "like for like" for years. You can call it anything you want, but the fact is that Roos and now Longmire have always selected on that basis. My predictions on that basis over the years have generally been right, even if I haven't agreed with them. It's not the "next in line" who comes in, it's the one who best fits the balance and structure that they want to use. If Longmire only wants 3 inside mids (which is all we need in terms of terminology for that position) then that's all he'll pick, regardless of who else we have that can play that position.

Personally, I agree with elements of most of the recent posts. I certainly see far more in Rohan as a forward than as a defender, and I now see Reid as far more effective as a defender. Part of our problem is the trade ban, and that we missed out on Joel Patful. Anyone who watched the St Kilda v GWS game would have seen exactly what we missed and how we would have used him. If you weren't angry about it before, you would have been after watching that game.

I'm not sold on Goodes as sub. We have, IMO, been one of the worst teams in the AFL at picking and using our sub well. We did get it right on Saturday though as Lloyd (who should have started mind you) did a superb job when coming on. The sub may have to come on early if there is an injury, so it has to be someone who is able to do that job too. The way the Dogs used Giansiracusa in that role was great, but Goodes is a different kind of player. Give him a few games in better conditions before we cast judgement. One game is not enough to make a call, especially in that weather.

My thoughts? If McGlynn is right to go he'll come in for Heeney. McVeigh will come in for Laidler or Rohan. Not saying I agree, just what I think will happen. Towers is essentially playing where Reid used to and Reid is now the extra defender, with a licence to be forward sometimes. Cunningham will be retained in a run-with role and sent to someone like White. I like Matt80's idea of Reid on Westhoff to be honest.

Lastly, I wish we still had Mummy. What a gun he is.

I really can't see them dropping either Rohan or Heeney. Longmire plays Rohan when he's fit, and he wouldn't drop Heeney after such a debut when he was hard and influential. McVeigh for Laidler, yes. McGlynn for Towers.

Earlier in this thread I suggested that Cunningham would be the one to go, but I agree he'll be given a run-with role. Better play a good game, though - last week was a shocker.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Wouldn't be dropping Heeney for anyone. He's improved with every game so far and by finals he could be a real wildcard. I would have Mcglynn in the side but not at his expense. Could win the risung star the way he's tracking