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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9377

    #76
    7Footywire has Amartey as a RGA this year and McLean contracted through 2027. I have been a gan of Amartey, but I would prefer to trade him or let go for compo pick and keep McLean. I am tiring of Amartey's inconsistency and his frequent injuries. All up, I think McLean is better option.

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    • BRS328
      Regular in the Side
      • Feb 2018
      • 509

      #77
      Originally posted by Ludwig
      7Footywire has Amartey as a RGA this year and McLean contracted through 2027. I have been a gan of Amartey, but I would prefer to trade him or let go for compo pick and keep McLean. I am tiring of Amartey's inconsistency and his frequent injuries. All up, I think McLean is better option.
      Like you I have been a fan of Armartey as I believe he has far more upside to McLean. Having said that McLean was very good against the Bulldogs and was the best game I’ve seen him play.
      I prefer to wait and see how he goes over the next few weeks in the absence of Armartey where he is assured of games. In the past McLean has struggled against good opposition and now has the opportunity to prove he can perform consistently. I hope he proves me wrong

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      • Dow
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2022
        • 1099

        #78
        Originally posted by BRS328

        Like you I have been a fan of Armartey as I believe he has far more upside to McLean. Having said that McLean was very good against the Bulldogs and was the best game I’ve seen him play.
        I prefer to wait and see how he goes over the next few weeks in the absence of Armartey where he is assured of games. In the past McLean has struggled against good opposition and now has the opportunity to prove he can perform consistently. I hope he proves me wrong
        Happy to trade Amartey we have few young fwds like King/Hethereton who will need chances in coming years

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        • Roadrunner
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2018
          • 1546

          #79
          Originally posted by Dow

          Happy to trade Amartey we have few young fwds like King/Hethereton who will need chances in coming years
          I’d only trade him if someone really top becomes available. I agree that he’s inconsistent and injury prone, but you need a player his size and agility in our squad. Maybe not every week as he needs to be managed. As far as a new contract is concerned, I hope he will be realistic in his expectations and I’m sure the club will offer him a fair deal. He is certainly not elite at this stage but would prefer to keep him- Charlie, Logan, Hayden and Joel make a pretty good group of forward talls and is essential if we are to be contenders.

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          • imuninformedtwo
            Regular in the Side
            • Aug 2024
            • 983

            #80
            Originally posted by Dow

            Happy to trade Amartey we have few young fwds like King/Hethereton who will need chances in coming years
            Let’s see either of those two get over their injuries before we count on them, but get your point.

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            • SwanSand
              Regular in the Side
              • Aug 2020
              • 590

              #81
              Most teams that are contenders have traded in players from other teams that fill some holes.
              we are doing that over the last two years and were ruthless in letting go Florent and Hayward. But Serong and Curnow are not the only ones we need.
              we need contested ball winners. Or we need to find them in the draft. At present our Drafts have not targeted these kind of players and we have no trade targets too for contested players.

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              • KSAS
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2018
                • 2115

                #82
                Media speculation is Carlton is one of the teams expressing interest with Armartey. Ironic, as they already have 4 ex-Swans!

                Apparently we have assured Joel our 4 and 5 year contract offers will remain on the table, despite missing rest of the H&A season with injury.

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                • Dow
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2022
                  • 1099

                  #83
                  Originally posted by KSAS
                  Media speculation is Carlton is one of the teams expressing interest with Armartey. Ironic, as they already have 4 ex-Swans!

                  Apparently we have assured Joel our 4 and 5 year contract offers will remain on the table, despite missing rest of the H&A season with injury.
                  Should be only offered a 2 year deal at best

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                  • Dow
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2022
                    • 1099

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Roadrunner

                    I’d only trade him if someone really top becomes available. I agree that he’s inconsistent and injury prone, but you need a player his size and agility in our squad. Maybe not every week as he needs to be managed. As far as a new contract is concerned, I hope he will be realistic in his expectations and I’m sure the club will offer him a fair deal. He is certainly not elite at this stage but would prefer to keep him- Charlie, Logan, Hayden and Joel make a pretty good group of forward talls and is essential if we are to be contenders.
                    I don’t think that group of players are much chop - with only Curnow really untouchable - the rest are all replaceable

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                    • Roadrunner
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1546

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Dow

                      I don’t think that group of players are much chop - with only Curnow really untouchable - the rest are all replaceable
                      Agreed- apart from Curnow they are not elite, but can be very good though inconsistent. That’s the main issue and in the case of Logan and Joel, mainly due to injuries. Our major problem is clearances. We also need another elite small forward to partner Paps, who unfortunately is more and more injury prone. Are any of our youngsters good enough? I thought Rosas would fill that role but his form has not been good lately.

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                      • UUaswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2024
                        • 1206

                        #86
                        5yr deal at Amartey from a rival and not a single comment on here

                        I hope the Recruiting team has similar sentiments

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                        • KSAS
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 2115

                          #87
                          No surprise that Carlton is the team who apparentley have upped their 5 year offer for Amartey according to Cal Twomey, who thinks he'll likely stay.
                          Club still has 5 x $700k offer on the table for him.

                          It's Amartey v McLean as one will most likely won't be on our list in 2027.

                          Club may not be dissatisfied if Amartey is receiving a $1m+ offer from Carlton, as this should trigger a first round compo pick shiould he decide to move as a UFA.
                          If Amartey stays, Mclean is contracted for 2027 if he requests a trade at year's end which should give us leverage for a 2nd round pick you'd think?

                          Getting additional picks to help match our Academy bids might be seen by our List Management as more beneficial than hanging onto both players.
                          Joel will potentially draw the higher pick. Mclean has 5+ weeks to state his case. It's a ruthless business!

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                          • BRS328
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Feb 2018
                            • 509

                            #88
                            Originally posted by KSAS
                            No surprise that Carlton is the team who apparentley have upped their 5 year offer for Amartey according to Cal Twomey, who thinks he'll likely stay.
                            Club still has 5 x $700k offer on the table for him.

                            It's Amartey v McLean as one will most likely won't be on our list in 2027.

                            Club may not be dissatisfied if Amartey is receiving a $1m+ offer from Carlton, as this should trigger a first round compo pick shiould he decide to move as a UFA.
                            If Amartey stays, Mclean is contracted for 2027 if he requests a trade at year's end which should give us leverage for a 2nd round pick you'd think?

                            Getting additional picks to help match our Academy bids might be seen by our List Management as more beneficial than hanging onto both players.
                            Joel will potentially draw the higher pick. Mclean has 5+ weeks to state his case. It's a ruthless business!
                            McLean has performed exactly the way I expected against good teams. He is very good against the likes of Richmond, North, Essendon etc but put him up against good teams like Freo and Adelaide and you see the results. It has happened before and in my opinion you will never win a premiership with him in the team
                            Armartey has far more upside and played a very important part earlier in the season against good opposition. His game against Brisbane was unacceptable, but did he go into the game carrying an injury.

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                            • UUaswan
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2024
                              • 1206

                              #89
                              Originally posted by BRS328

                              McLean has performed exactly the way I expected against good teams. He is very good against the likes of Richmond, North, Essendon etc but put him up against good teams like Freo and Adelaide and you see the results. It has happened before and in my opinion you will never win a premiership with him in the team
                              Armartey has far more upside and played a very important part earlier in the season against good opposition. His game against Brisbane was unacceptable, but did he go into the game carrying an injury.
                              Both serviceable, none worth anything near what is being touted but......

                              As usual Sydney Match Committee not getting the best out of it, any forwards in the top 40 goalkickers rucking ? Zero

                              Freo are 3 games clear on top and have 3 permanent tall fwds in the Top 20 Goalkickers plus 2 dedicated Rucks.

                              Regardless of when Grundy was firing, the 20% of time he wasnt rucking would have accounted for 70% of opposition scoring not to mention what it did to our fwd line.

                              Midfield in shambles, Partime tall fwd line or smalls that arent required to tackle or score, 36yr old undersized key Defender, no wonder we are @@@@@@

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11475

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Dow

                                I don’t think that group of players are much chop - with only Curnow really untouchable - the rest are all replaceable
                                Logan's 4 goals against the Saints in close to a match winning effort says he stays.
                                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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