2026 List Management

[Nico]

Both serviceable, none worth anything near what is being touted but......

As usual Sydney Match Committee not getting the best out of it, any forwards in the top 40 goalkickers rucking ? Zero

Freo are 3 games clear on top and have 3 permanent tall fwds in the Top 20 Goalkickers plus 2 dedicated Rucks.

Regardless of when Grundy was firing, the 20% of time he wasnt rucking would have accounted for 70% of opposition scoring not to mention what it did to our fwd line.

Midfield in shambles, Partime tall fwd line or smalls that arent required to tackle or score, 36yr old undersized key Defender, no wonder we are @@@@@@

Midfield a shambles!!!! Give me a break. Did you watch the last quarter yesterday? By the way the last time I looked we have won 15 games this year, and it maybe 18 by the end of the Home and Away

[imuninformedtwo]

Midfield a shambles!!!! Give me a break. Did you watch the last quarter yesterday? By the way the last time I looked we have won 15 games this year, and it maybe 18 by the end of the Home and Away

I'm somewhere in between.

My worry is our midfield in a couple of years. The fact is we don't have a midfielder under 23 in whom you can express real confidence. Gus hasn't nailed it; I think Datolli is exciting as a midfield option, but yet to be proven; Kyle is the most likely but still no guarantee as a pure midfielder; Cleary - meh; and who knows what Phillipou will be. And there's nothing exciting in the academy, this year at least.

We'll need to quickly rebuild our stocks in there.

[Nico]

I'm somewhere in between.

My worry is our midfield in a couple of years. The fact is we don't have a midfielder under 23 in whom you can express real confidence. Gus hasn't nailed it; I think Datolli is exciting as a midfield option, but yet to be proven; Kyle is the most likely but still no guarantee as a pure midfielder; Cleary - meh; and who knows what Phillipou will be. And there's nothing exciting in the academy, this year at least.

We'll need to quickly rebuild our stocks in there.

We don't know about Dattoli because Cox doesn't give him a game.

[Roadrunner]

We don't know about Dattoli because Cox doesn't give him a game.

Why do you think that Nico? Cox strikes me as willing to give any youngster a go if shown consistent form in the ressies. Given Rosas’ poor recent games, I can’t see him retained this week and if Dattolli doesn’t get picked it will be very strange indeed.

In: Dattoli, Melican/Hamling, Gus and maybe Wicks.
Out: Edwards, Rowy, Rosas, and Lloyd/ Heeney managed.

[imuninformedtwo]

I rate Datolli and wanted him in the side before the end of the year but was ok with him being made to wait a bit. Earlier in the year his running power wasn’t there off the back of his injuries since joining. Some of the stuff in reserves in the first half of the year in particular was really lacking. That’s not a knock on him. It was a function of his interrupted training schedule.

There was no way in the world you could pick him. His transition running in particular was poor.

The constant time he’s spent playing midfield has done him good and I’d be comfortable picking him now.

But I hope we load up on midfield talent the next two off seasons to fill the void.

[Nico]

Why do you think that Nico? Cox strikes me as willing to give any youngster a go if shown consistent form in the ressies. Given Rosas’ poor recent games, I can’t see him retained this week and if Dattolli doesn’t get picked it will be very strange indeed.

In: Dattoli, Melican/Hamling, Gus and maybe Wicks.
Out: Edwards, Rowy, Rosas, and Lloyd/ Heeney managed.

Ludwig is an avid viewer of the VLF and he is adamant that Dettoli has been very good for weeks and can't work out why he hasn't replaced Rosas.

[Ludwig]

I don't think we are in any desperate need for a midfieler, but doubtless there will be a few coming onto our list in the next few years. We have a sold midfield group, with Heeney tholdest, so you would expect this group has a several more years to go, if e can keep Warner. Our midfield is good enough where we can spare Mills to play in defense.

I can't see Datoli as a midfielder. Small forward definitely is the position for him. As a forward, he has many Heeney-like qualities, in that he can kick well on both side, for all distances and angles. Last game he was inside 50 in the 4th qtrr and could have gone for goal, but in a split second spotted Cleary in a better position around 40 and hit him spot on with a perfect kick. It was really impressive. I'd be shocked if he doesn't come in for Rosas.

BTW, Cleary missed that set shot, but miraculously kicked 2 beautiful set shot goals from more than 50 out in the same qtr. I've never seen Cleary kick that straight or that long in any AFL game. Probably just a fluke but hope springs eternal.

[longmile]

Any readymade KPDs in the market/rumoured to come to the swans?

With Edward’s injured and potentially injury prone, McCartins concussion concerns, and Rampe and Hamling past it and likely retiring (or one year off) you’d say we desperately need a readymade backman

[lwjoyner]

maybe Weteriung from Carlton. not getting a game at this stage, not sure if it is injury concerns.

[BRS328]

maybe Weteriung from Carlton. not getting a game at this stage, not sure if it is injury concerns.

He has been out with calf issues which is not a good sign for aging players. The Swans are in no position to get seriously involved in trades at the end of the season because we have used our first round picks for the next two years, and that is what would be required

[KSAS]

Dane Rampe (285 games) & Jake Lloyd (292 games) have both been magnficent servants as they close in on 300, which they'll need to play on next year to achieve.

Would be great to see happen. Understandably, sentiments come second as it will depend on the players themselves, how the club sees our list and their rating of upcoming draft with our hand. Winning flag will also have an influence.

Hope they both receive great send offs either way.

[UUaswan]

Dane Rampe (285 games) & Jake Lloyd (292 games) have both been magnficent servants as they close in on 300, which they'll need to play on next year to achieve.

Would be great to see happen. Understandably, sentiments come second as it will depend on the players themselves, how the club sees our list and their rating of upcoming draft with our hand. Winning flag will also have an influence.

Hope they both receive great send offs either way.

Both amazing careers.

Lloyd could play til he is 45 its just a matter of who he holds out, no issue being on the list but next year he should be cover for injuries

Ramps would be lucky to play 12 games with injuries, always asked to do too much for his size, that gets harder the older you get.

Unfortunately we have history with guys going that extra year and not being available

Kennedy, 11 games finished on 290
Jack, 8 games finished on 256
ROK, 4 games finished on 286
Buddy, 13 Games finished on 356
Mcveigh, 6 games finished 325

[imuninformedtwo]

Both amazing careers.

Lloyd could play til he is 45 its just a matter of who he holds out, no issue being on the list but next year he should be cover for injuries

Ramps would be lucky to play 12 games with injuries, always asked to do too much for his size, that gets harder the older you get.

Unfortunately we have history with guys going that extra year and not being available

Kennedy, 11 games finished on 290
Jack, 8 games finished on 256
ROK, 4 games finished on 286
Buddy, 13 Games finished on 356
Mcveigh, 6 games finished 325

This'll be Dane's last year. Think that's pretty well known inside the club. I love him to bits and hope we get to send him off the right way.

Lloyd is more to be seen. I think there's a gap between his performances against the very elite sides and the rest, but he's still doing a lot right.

[mcs]

Dane Rampe (285 games) & Jake Lloyd (292 games) have both been magnficent servants as they close in on 300, which they'll need to play on next year to achieve.

Would be great to see happen. Understandably, sentiments come second as it will depend on the players themselves, how the club sees our list and their rating of upcoming draft with our hand. Winning flag will also have an influence.

Hope they both receive great send offs either way.

I reckon Lloyd will get another year - if not with us, he would be a perfect fit for another club that is rebuilding. I know he has some very loud critics in some parts of our fan base, but I reckon he has had another really solid season and still has a bit to give. An ultimate professional that has truly eeked out every bit of performance he could.

I don't think Rampe will get there now given he has missed a few this year, and I tend to agree with Uninformed that it appears pretty clear he is finished sadly. He deserved to reach 300 - but footy is not a sentimental game.

All I will say is I hope the rest of the boys can help them get the send off they deserve with a medallion around their necks - would be wonderful for them to be part of a Swans Premiership after all the heartbreak they've been part of over the past decade and a bit. They've been amazing picks for a pair of rookies.

Players like them however is why I'd love a bit of nostalgia returned to the game with the effective return of the veterans list. Now I know some clubs (cough @@@@* you Geelong) were quite clever at all but abusing the system, but I think there was a nice reason behind it existing - and I think its demise has significantly gone towards seeing more and more players that should be one club players pushed out towards the end over relatively few $. But we all know, unless it favours the VFL boys club or other protected species, only certain types of nostalgia/romanticism can be associated with footy.