Alleged incident at hotel on Sunday night

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  • crackedactor 01
    Regular in the Side
    • Jun 2020
    • 843

    #76
    So firstly in was a fight with a African Gang, then it was sexual assault (rape), then it was drug possession (cocaine), then it was inappropriate touching, then it was a 30 year old official being interviewed by police, Now its the players will face suspensions for breaking curfew hours. This sounds like a setup.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8342

      #77
      Originally posted by crackedactor 01
      So firstly in was a fight with a African Gang, then it was sexual assault (rape), then it was drug possession (cocaine), then it was inappropriate touching, then it was a 30 year old official being interviewed by police, Now its the players will face suspensions for breaking curfew hours. This sounds like a setup.
      Inappropriate touching is highly likely to be classified as sexual assault. The African Gang rubbish is of the same level as the dildo throwing nonsense - some try hard @@@@***s trying to be clever and funny.

      And I suspect reading between the lines the drug element is correct and a key part of what might drive very heavy sanctions from the club. The language used in the statement from the club would not be being used if the only issue with code of conduct/expectations around behaviour was solely breaking curfew hours.
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9386

        #78
        In that the In their official club statement, the Swans stated that the welfare of their AFLW athletes and staff is a priority, acknowledging "the impact these allegations have on our female athletes, staff members and the wider community".

        This would appear to be an admission of some kind of misbehavior or sexual abuse of women by players involved, even before any
        statement from the police.

        It would intimate that something serious had taken place, else it would be quite a foolish admission of guilt before the facts were known.

        I think we should be prepared for the fallout from this incident to break the Swans for at least a decade to come.

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8342

          #79
          Originally posted by Ludwig
          In that the In their official club statement, the Swans stated that the welfare of their AFLW athletes and staff is a priority, acknowledging "the impact these allegations have on our female athletes, staff members and the wider community".

          This would appear to be an admission of some kind of misbehavior or sexual abuse of women by players involved, even before any
          statement from the police.

          It would intimate that something serious had taken place, else it would be quite a foolish admission of guilt before the facts were known.

          I think we should be prepared for the fallout from this incident to break the Swans for at least a decade to come.
          They do however Ludwig use the word allegations - I think one of the few well established facts around this is the allegation involves misbehaviour towards women (in the best case scenario) or far worse (in the worse case). So I'm not really sure they are admitting to anything that isn't already established. No one has denied at any point that some form of 'incident' took place, and no one is suggesting it is not a 'serious' matter either I don't think.

          Those elements are well enough established to use the wording in the statement without it having any implications beyond reflecting what is clearly already out there.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • UUaswan
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2024
            • 1248

            #80
            Stand down for a week with fine, gives Vic police 2 weeks to come fwd with anything and then add if required to the sanction.

            Staying out late, was known to the club
            Drinking was known to the club

            Multiple men in a room with less women is the Predatory look they dont agree with and most definately why they have addressed the AFLW.

            BIG If, but if an SA charge isnt made, nothing else is illegal. Clearly not the required standard of behaviour but not unusual for the age group.

            Let them deal with partners and families like every other 20 something that makes a @@@@@ of himself.


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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9386

              #81
              What I'm saying is that it seems unnecessary to make any statement of that nature when we are only at the allegation stage of the process. It's the kind of statement that would be made only if those making the statement know that something offensive to women has taken place with a high degree of certainty, such as admissions by players, that have yet to become public.

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              • UUaswan
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2024
                • 1248

                #82
                Originally posted by Ludwig
                What I'm saying is that it seems unnecessary to make any statement of that nature when we are only at the allegation stage of the process. It's the kind of statement that would be made only if those making the statement know that something offensive to women has taken place with a high degree of certainty, such as admissions by players, that have yet to become public.
                Stripper/Women in a room with multiple men
                Predatory look they dont like

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