Alleged incident at hotel on Sunday night

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • UUaswan
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2024
    • 1272

    #181
    Originally posted by Syd76
    It will be interesting to see what the fall out re the retention of the 5 players are. Those that have got contracts (long term ones being Heeney and Blakey) vs those that have a decision to make within the next one or two years (Warner and Jordon). Not sure what Bice contract status is.

    Independent of the club taking on position on the 5 players individually, I wonder whether the players mindset will be
    a) I am tainted and have lost the trust of the club/playing group/want a "fresh start" and will want to move on.. or
    b) whether they would feel a duty to right their wrongs and prove that they want to redeem themselves at the club.

    This I think will give you a fair insight into them as characters and the loyalty to the club
    They have screwed up themselves, but the club making a OTT decision without a view to further review pending a Police investigation is throwing them under the bus. This is a bigger circus going fwd than it had to be.

    Lost trust with playing group etc etc

    There isnt a player in that group that doesn't want to play the 1st final without them. Playing group would have been happy with a Suspension and hefty fine til finals/outcome.

    Love the Swans hypocrisy of the AFLW team and overshadowing their first win of the season and first double header..... Clearly no issue talking about the overshadowing or impact of their footy season

    Comment

    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8740

      #182
      Originally posted by crackedactor 01

      I think every club has had moments they are not proud of. As a Swans member I like to said "I am not impressed with board's decision" . It appears they are bowing down to the woke media and the feminists of this world. My first reaction was a substantial fine with the money going to charity,25,000 plus and then the suspension until the facts are presented in a police report , maybe 2-3 weeks maybe 4-5 weeks.and not say rest of the season. Also talk of drugs found. Why were the 5 players concerned not drug tested? It seems the board care nothing about members and only outside sources. If we lose both finals by 20 goals, who does it benefit? I guess the feminist will be happy even though they will not even watch one minute of the game.If the allegations are true then impose severe penalties, if they are made up stories I will be very upset.
      "Woke" media....there's that lazy word again. Just stop it.

      Comment

      • The Big Cat
        On the veteran's list
        • Apr 2006
        • 2403

        #183
        Originally posted by UUaswan

        They have screwed up themselves, but the club making a OTT decision without a view to further review pending a Police investigation is throwing them under the bus. This is a bigger circus going fwd than it had to be.

        Lost trust with playing group etc etc

        There isnt a player in that group that doesn't want to play the 1st final without them. Playing group would have been happy with a Suspension and hefty fine til finals/outcome.

        Love the Swans hypocrisy of the AFLW team and overshadowing their first win of the season and first double header..... Clearly no issue talking about the overshadowing or impact of their footy season
        Take the assault charge out of it for the moment, the suspensions would have been the same.

        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

        Comment

        • The Big Cat
          On the veteran's list
          • Apr 2006
          • 2403

          #184
          It makes me sick to the guts when I hear people using the 'boys will be boys' excuse, or 'everybody has had these wild nights out'. No they haven't! Just because an individual and their mates have done a similar thing doesn't mean everyone else has. I hate people justifying dickhead irresponsible behaviour by claiming it's part of growing up or is normal behaviour among young males. People who undertake dickhead behaviour can only lay claim to one thing - they are a dickhead.
          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

          Comment

          • UUaswan
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2024
            • 1272

            #185
            Originally posted by Nico

            If the players were'nt drug tested the next day then surely the bird has flown on that one.
            Yep, we are going to sanction you for something we dont have the balls to prove

            Really holding up a culture there

            Comment

            • UUaswan
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2024
              • 1272

              #186
              Originally posted by The Big Cat
              It makes me sick to the guts when I hear people using the 'boys will be boys' excuse, or 'everybody has had these wild nights out'. No they haven't! Just because an individual and their mates have done a similar thing doesn't mean everyone else has. I hate people justifying dickhead irresponsible behaviour by claiming it's part of growing up or is normal behaviour among young males. People who undertake dickhead behaviour can only lay claim to one thing - they are a dickhead.
              Its not boys will be boys, its the probability of the demographic we are talking about.

              It makes me sick when someone pretends to understand what its like being a profession athlete and all the offerings that go with it.

              People sacrifice and do FIFO work for a swing, come home and go stupid, if its not normal it is very common

              Comment

              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8740

                #187
                Originally posted by UUaswan

                Yep, we are going to sanction you for something we dont have the balls to prove

                Really holding up a culture there
                Drugs were taken, it's just been confirmed from a police source....so I reckon the players admitted it and the club didn't have to 'prove' it.

                Maybe it's time to just hold back a bit on the 'attack the club' to 'protect the players' rhetoric. It's starting to look a bit foolish.

                Comment

                • crackedactor 01
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 848

                  #188
                  Originally posted by UUaswan

                  Yep, we are going to sanction you for something we dont have the balls to prove

                  Really holding up a culture there
                  This is sounding like a setup, come in spinner. Evidently the woman involved wants to sue the entire Swans team, board and the AFL. Looks like she will be a multi millionaire for all her troubles.

                  Comment

                  • UUaswan
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2024
                    • 1272

                    #189
                    Originally posted by crackedactor 01

                    This is sounding like a setup, come in spinner. Evidently the woman involved wants to sue the entire Swans team, board and the AFL. Looks like she will be a multi millionaire for all her troubles.
                    Yep, nothing will be enough

                    Comment

                    • UUaswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2024
                      • 1272

                      #190
                      Originally posted by stevoswan

                      Drugs were taken, it's just been confirmed from a police source....so I reckon the players admitted it and the club didn't have to 'prove' it.

                      Maybe it's time to just hold back a bit on the 'attack the club' to 'protect the players' rhetoric. It's starting to look a bit foolish.
                      2 Sydney AFLW players went to court and were charged by police with drug possession and recieved a 2 week ban from the AFL for conduct unbecoming

                      Ginnivan and Bailey Smith recieved 2 week bans for Social Media videos with no positive test.

                      The wolves are out on this one

                      Comment

                      • Syd76
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Jul 2019
                        • 225

                        #191
                        The Old auntie/foxsports is reporting:....

                        The ABC’s report says police sources allege an “arrangement was reached ... to pay extra to take drugs, believed to be cocaine, from the women’s breasts and buttocks”.

                        It’s not suggested the Swans players were responsible for the drugs being there or they took them, only that they were there.


                        Lovely look for the players and the club. I am no saint but it doesn't put the club or the players themselves in a great light if true

                        Comment

                        • Syd76
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Jul 2019
                          • 225

                          #192
                          Originally posted by UUaswan

                          2 Sydney AFLW players went to court and were charged by police with drug possession and recieved a 2 week ban from the AFL for conduct unbecoming

                          Ginnivan and Bailey Smith recieved 2 week bans for Social Media videos with no positive test.

                          The wolves are out on this one
                          To an extent I agree with you.. I guess if the club projects a holier than thou culture.. mine is better than yours, no dickheads policy etc etc.. then one has to accept the fall will be higher and greater.

                          Comment

                          • UUaswan
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2024
                            • 1272

                            #193
                            Originally posted by Syd76
                            The Old auntie/foxsports is reporting:....

                            The ABC’s report says police sources allege an “arrangement was reached ... to pay extra to take drugs, believed to be cocaine, from the women’s breasts and buttocks”.

                            It’s not suggested the Swans players were responsible for the drugs being there or they took them, only that they were there.


                            Lovely look for the players and the club. I am no saint but it doesn't put the club or the players themselves in a great light if true
                            All got to be true.... Like Blakey knocking out teeth

                            Comment

                            • UUaswan
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2024
                              • 1272

                              #194
                              Originally posted by Syd76

                              To an extent I agree with you.. I guess if the club projects a holier than thou culture.. mine is better than yours, no dickheads policy etc etc.. then one has to accept the fall will be higher and greater.
                              The point is you can cut it anyway you like, maybe we have only had issues since the women program started? Prior to that it was all Bloods culture ?

                              Comment

                              • Syd76
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Jul 2019
                                • 225

                                #195
                                Originally posted by UUaswan

                                The point is you can cut it anyway you like, maybe we have only had issues since the women program started? Prior to that it was all Bloods culture ?
                                that is true one can interpret things to their own narrative

                                Anyway the club wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't the actions of a foolish few. Period.

                                Comment

                                Working...